{"id":39407,"date":"2018-03-19T19:45:09","date_gmt":"2018-03-19T19:45:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/alreadyheard.com\/staging\/interview-three-chords-and-the-truth-getting-to\/"},"modified":"2018-04-02T14:35:59","modified_gmt":"2018-04-02T14:35:59","slug":"interview-three-chords-and-the-truth-getting-to","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/alreadyheard.com\/staging\/interview-three-chords-and-the-truth-getting-to\/","title":{"rendered":"Three chords and the truth: Getting to know Walter Etc."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/78.media.tumblr.com\/ce3a20bfb09f23fbeb8a2c8639184361\/tumblr_oczgq9lfGb1r8no6so5_r88_1280.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"\"><\/p>\n<h1 align=\"center\">\u201cFor me, the perfect pop song is super simple, and it has really honest lyrics. I think that\u2019s all you need; three chords and the truth.\u201d<\/h1>\n<p>Trying to draw a coherent line from street punks The Ducky Boys through to South Californian indie-pop group <b>Walter Etc.<\/b> might seem nigh-on impossible.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s certainly little commonality between the two acts \u2013 one a brusque punk n\u2019roll band from Boston, the other a breezy and infectious ensemble from The Golden State \u2013 yet the idea of \u2018Three Chords and the Truth\u2019 is something that fits both nicely. For The Ducky Boys, it refers to the title of their third album. For <b>Walter Etc.<\/b>, and songwriter <b>Dustin Hayes<\/b>, it relates to the perfect pop song.<\/p>\n<p><i>\u201cI always say I write three chords and the truth,\u201d<\/i> considers <b>Hayes<\/b>. <i>\u201cIt\u2019s obviously an understatement, but it makes so much sense. For me, the perfect pop song is super simple, and it has really honest lyrics. I think that\u2019s all you need; three chords and the truth.\u201d<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Such a notion came to <b>Hayes<\/b> after seeing the cover of The Ducky Boys album as a young teenager. Having never listened to the album, it\u2019s regardless an idea that has embedded itself in <b>Hayes<\/b>\u2019 philosophy when it comes to song-writing.<\/p>\n<p><!-- more --><\/p>\n<p>However, there\u2019s more than three chords and the truth about <b>Walter Etc.<\/b>\u2019s exceptional <i>\u2018Gloom Cruise\u2019<\/i>, released last year on Lauren, Lame-O and <b>Hayes<\/b>\u2019 own Making New Enemies labels. It certainly captured our attention at Already Heard, making our <a href=\"https:\/\/alreadyheard.com\/staging\/post\/168753932835\/10-awesome-albums-from-2017-you-might-have-missed\">list of best ten albums you might have missed<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>With the group about to embark on their debut European tour it seemed like the ideal time to catch up with <b>Hayes<\/b> about all things <i>\u2018Gloom Cruise\u2019<\/i>, writing pop songs for nihilists, and finally making it overseas. <i>\u201cWe\u2019ve all been to Europe at some point in our lives, but never with the band, so we\u2019re stoked to explore, via the music,\u201d<\/i> explains <b>Hayes<\/b>. <i>\u201cIt\u2019s taking us to some towns we would otherwise want to go to, so we\u2019re all really excited.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>\u201cI\u2019m really excited to play the UK \u2013 pretty much all over \u2013 but I\u2019m stoked to be able to play London and Glasgow, just because I think there are some people there that have been wanting to see us, and I think the energy would be pretty cool. At least I hope!\u201d<\/i> laughs <b>Hayes<\/b>.<\/p>\n<p><iframe title=\"Walter Etc. - Baby Blue Hammock (Official Video)\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/qjKpsGFhMoU?feature=oembed&#038;enablejsapi=1&#038;origin=https:\/\/alreadyheard.com\/staging\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Yet, while expectation is growing, <b>Walter Etc.<\/b> are not an overnight success, building on the considerable groundwork laid under the moniker <b>Walter Mitty and His Makeshift Orchestra<\/b>.<\/p>\n<p>Formed in 2009, <b>WMHMO<\/b> played more folk-punk inspired indie-pop than the broad spectrum pop appeal of <b>Walter Etc.<\/b> \u2013 even though they are unmistakably the same band. Much of this is to do with <b>Hayes<\/b>\u2019 distinctively laid-back and warm vocals but, with personnel changes, a desire to push the songwriting even further, and the possible legal threat from Hollywood regarding the Walter Mitty name, <b>Hayes<\/b> decided a new name was needed to signify a fresh start.<\/p>\n<p><i>\u201cThe group that was <b>Walter Mitty<\/b>, by the end of it, was all my best friends from childhood and me \u2013 and it never felt like it could be anything else but that group of guys and that acoustic folk-punk kinda sound,\u201d<\/i> says <b>Hayes<\/b>. <i>\u201cA bunch of the guys weren\u2019t able to keep playing music for a while because of jobs and schools and stuff, and I was like \u2018I need to give the band kind of a reboot\u2019 \u2013 I can\u2019t stop playing music.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>\u201cSo Kris [Schobert \u2013 drums] and I decided to abbreviate the name \u2013 the long name had always been the bane of our existence anyway \u2013 not to mention a lawsuit because of the Walter Mitty movie that came out.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>\u201cI had a bunch of these electric songs that would never have fit with the old band, but we could start playing them now with the new band and have this sort of evolution of the band. So not like a whole different band, but more of a revamp.\u201d<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Like the music, there\u2019s also a lyric growth that helps differentiate the two projects. <i>\u2018Gloom Cruise\u2019<\/i> possesses an array of characters, from the <i>\u2018Stumptown Summer Heartthrob\u2019<\/i> to the Peace Corps home girl Petunia (<i>\u2018Petunia, You\u2019re Home\u2019<\/i>). Wryly observed and perfectly articulated, they\u2019re a menagerie of personalities that convey a wealth of feelings and emotions.<\/p>\n<p><i>\u201cA lot of the <b>Walter Mitty<\/b> songs are young adult and kinda angsty, and all about \u2018I\u2019 \u2013 me \u2013 with the pronoun \u2018I\u2019 all over the place, and it\u2019s all super literal and specific,\u201d<\/i> considers <b>Hayes<\/b>. <i>\u201cWith <i>\u2018Gloom Cruise\u2019<\/i> I wanted to create a character with Petunia, or imagery, or more poetic abstract lyrics \u2013 like in \u2018All Connotations\u2019. So, just like wanting a fresh start with the music, I wanted to see what I could do lyrically, besides introverted folk-punk.\u201d<br \/>\n<\/i><\/p>\n<p><iframe title=\"Walter Etc. - Lighthouse (Official Video)\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/1R6PKwCekXg?feature=oembed&#038;enablejsapi=1&#038;origin=https:\/\/alreadyheard.com\/staging\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a decision that paid off handsomely. Produced by Jeff Rosenstock \u2013 a hero of <b>Hayes<\/b>\u2019 since Bomb The Music Industry! \u2013 <i>\u2018Gloom Cruise\u2019<\/i> is an album steeped in Californian pop charm, yet possesses a world-weary eye and deep and meaningful insights. Working with Rosenstock \u2013 himself an artist whose profile has risen exponentially over the last three years \u2013 helped smooth the rough edges from <b>Walter Etc.<\/b>\u2019s fledgling new sound.<\/p>\n<p><i>\u201cAt first I was pretty star-struck,\u201d<\/i> laughs <b>Hayes<\/b>. <i>\u201cThe first day or two I was pretty embarrassed as he knew our songs and would play them on the piano, and he knew the lyrics, and he\u2019d tell us some ideas he had. I was in awe. I was like \u2018I cannot believe Jeff Rosenstock is playing MY songs to ME\u2019.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>\u201cHe has such a gentle approach to giving criticism or giving ideas without trying to step on your toes. And the thing I really learned from him was giving a song or an album dynamic range \u2013 which he does so well in his music \u2013 but I know in my music, I don\u2019t have a tonne of dynamic range. So he stepped in and showed me how I could really add some things to the record \u2013 or take stuff away.\u201d<\/i><\/p>\n<h1 align=\"center\">&#8220;I was in awe. I was like \u2018I cannot believe Jeff Rosenstock is playing MY songs to ME.\u201d<\/h1>\n<p>That <b>Hayes<\/b> can see such flaws is testament to his ability to look for signs of growth and improvement. It also adds to the rough-hewn charm of <b>Walter Etc.<\/b>\u2019s pop songs. These aren\u2019t glossy pop-punk songs, rather whipsmart indie-rock songs with a pop aesthetic.<\/p>\n<p>This humbleness can be seen in other parts of <b>Hayes<\/b>\u2019 life too. To fund the UK trip, he sold a series of paintings titled <i>\u2018Eight Normies and an Alt Femme\u2019<\/i>. The eight normies refer to enormous canvases of WMHMO\/<b>Walter Etc.<\/b>\u2019s alligator logo, painted by <b>Hayes<\/b>. The alt femme, a giant canvas of a snail, again drawn by <b>Hayes<\/b>. Indicating the enthusiasm for the artwork, they sold out in less than 48 hours.<\/p>\n<p><i>\u201cI was shocked,\u201d<\/i> laughs <b>Hayes<\/b>. <i>\u201cI\u2019m not a great painter, but I think it\u2019s more what the logo means to people, rather than the painting itself. It was cool that people were kind enough to pitch in and help the band in that way.\u201d<\/i><\/p>\n<p>DIY to the core \u2013 from the self-produced videos for <i>\u2018Baby Blue Hammock\u2019<\/i> to the alligator and snail paintings and numerous pieces of album artwork \u2013 there\u2019s very much a sense that <b>Walter Etc.<\/b> value the art above all else. The band is a vehicle that has allowed them to travel, first to Northern California, then state-wide and now to Europe, and later in 2018 to Japan. As we conclude our conversation, <b>Hayes<\/b> sums the sentiment up perfectly:<\/p>\n<p><i>\u201cThere\u2019s definitely this idea of art for art\u2019s sake, and enjoying the process and seeing what can come from keeping that mentality. I think that resonates with a lot of people, and they appreciate that kind of approach. And, you know, it\u2019s gotten us this far.\u201d<\/i><\/p>\n<p>It has indeed. And, by the time the European concludes in three weeks, expect lots more people to be in love with a normie crocodile or an alt femme snail\u2026<\/p>\n<p><b>Walter Etc.<\/b> play the following UK shows:<\/p>\n<p>March<br \/>\n25 Sticky Mike\u2019s, Brighton*<br \/>\n26 Sebright Arms, London*<br \/>\n27 Bloc, Glasgow*<br \/>\n28 Peer Hat, Manchester<br \/>\n29 Subside, Birmingham<br \/>\n* with The Pooches<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/78.media.tumblr.com\/b0f521278464333e016f11f322bb89b0\/tumblr_oczgq9lfGb1r8no6so5_r103_1280.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"\"><\/p>\n<p><i>\u2018Gloom Cruise\u2019<\/i> by <strong>Walter Etc.<\/strong> is out now on <b>Lauren Records<\/b>, <b>Lame-O Records<\/b> and <b>Making New Enemies<\/b>.<\/p>\n<p><b>Walter Etc.<\/b> links: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Walter-Etc-186964628325672\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Facebook<\/a>|<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/walter_etc\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Twitter<\/a>|<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/walteretc\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Instagram<\/a>|<a href=\"https:\/\/walteretc.bandcamp.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bandcamp<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Words by Rob Mair (<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/BobNightMair\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">@BobNightMair<\/a>)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cFor me, the perfect pop song is super simple, and it has really honest lyrics. 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